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Thursday, 4 April 2019

HAVE THEY GONE MAD

RECORD BREAKER? Mesivta in Lakewood Suspends FIFTY Bochurim For Going to Skulener Rebbe’s Levaya








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A Mesivta in Lakewood might have broken world records on Wednesday, after dozens of Bochurim were suspended. The boys were given the boot because they chose to attend the Levaya of the Skulener Rebbe ZATZAL in Boro Park on Tuesday.
According to a report by TLS, the Hanhala reportedly told the Bochurim to stay in Yeshiva and learn, rather than travel to New York for the Levaya, but a large group decided to do otherwise. Many of the Bochurim in this Mesivta are from a Chassidish background, and really wanted to attend this Levaya.
On Wednesday, approximately 50 boys were told not to come back to Yeshiva.
Additionally, many of them are being told not to come back next Z’man (after Pesach).
THE FOLLOWING WAS THE EXTENSIVE YWN COVERAGE OF THE LEVAYA
BORUCH DAYAN HA’EMES: Petira of the Skulener Rebbe ZATZL



29 COMMENTS

  2. “Record breaker”
    Really? Really? They were told NOT to go but they went anyway? Do the crime, you do the time.
    If they felt it wasn’t right, let them go elsewhere and “prove” themselves.
  4. Why oh why would YWN post this? This is obviously a decision of the hanholo of the yeshiva and should not be subject to our opinions about it…
  6. I would guess more like suspended for not listening to the hanhalah. These idiots were told not to go by THEIR REBBEIM. But they of course knew better. If they are not interested in what their Rebbeim tell them to do, only when its convenient, Then by all means chuck them out
  8. This is mamish apikurses, I guess the hanhulla of this sick institution doesn’t say Birchas Hatorah everyday, where halvuiyas hames is one of the things “Shein Luhem Shiuer”.
    If these boys are smart, boycott this Yeshiva and let them close down.
  10. The Hanhala apparently never learned מסכת כתובות or מגילה where it stated: “מבטלין תלמוד תורה להוצאת המת”.
    If yeshivas won’t allow bochurim to attend historic events related to Judaism then the boys will seek other means of entertainment.
  12. It’s rather very unlikely that the Yeshiva had the ability to tell them in advance not to attend as news of the petira spread after Yeshiva hours and the talmidim had to leave to the levaya early the next morning, before Yeshiva started.
  13. Such a yeshivah must be closed down.
    These boys friends, must all pick themselves up and leave.
    This is how these litfaks treat a chassidishe gadol????????????????
    Shame on them.
    If this were to be a litfak, they would say, DROP UR GEMARAS AND RUN TO THE LEVAYA.
    We must hear the name of the yeshiva.
    50 bucherim on the street for paying respect to one of our last gedolim. SAD. HORRIBLE
  14. Which is the record breaker, the Hanhala for giving the boot, or perhaps the fact that FIFTY bochurim ignored the Hanhala’s instructions??? – not sure…
  15. Its a major liability for a yeshiva or any school for that matter , if the bachurim just decide to leave the school grounds with out permission. If bachurim can deal with said school policies then go to another yeshiva which have no isdue with hefkayrus!
  16. A. This yeshiva ignored the Gemara in megilla that explicitly states that one of the only times you could and should stop learning is for the levaya of a tzadik. (the Gemara says the exception is if there are 600 thousand which there clearly wasn’t in this case) so the bochurim were right for going
    B. doesn’t the yeshiva realize how much potential learning will be lost by kicking out bochurim for missing a few hours?
  17. In my humble opinion, Yeshivos with an excellent track record producing high-caliber bnei Torah are very consistent in their chinuch. We should trust the roshei yeshivos in their decisions, and YWN should not be mixing into the chinuch of talmidim. There is a reason that they are running a yeshiva, and YWN is running a website. Keep the two separate. If you don’t like a policy of a certain yeshiva, that’s fine. Send your son to a yeshiva which is in line with your hashkafos.
  20. Unreal how some of you are bashing a yeshiva and more so behind some yiddisha haskafa of which you obviously know nothing……1. Against chasids( probably not if the kids in the yeshiva are chasidishe) 2. Dont know gemara?? Probably more than any of you quoting 3. Whatever their reasons for not allowing 50 bochurim to travel to ny for a levaya once they say no that is daas torah and any bochur who disregards that daas torah does not belong in a yeshiva until they realize what it actually means……i suggest for all you with other opinions to go ask your own daas torah because your torah is obviously without daas.
  21. Sounds more like expelled than suspended…
    I agree that they broke the rules but that doesn’t mean someone should get kicked out because of that. When I was in Yeshivah, people broke many rules habitually, and were rarely if ever thrown out. And they probably did worse things than go to the levayah of a gadol. And I’d bet that this same Yeshiva also has other barchurim who break rules more egregiously and are not kicked out. Sounds more like a control issue or shita.
    Disturbing…
    @regular guy 64. Nope. We shouldn’t. Sorry. For decades we’ve had corruption. Finally we’re starting to have checks and balances. Thanks, YWN.
  22. I am sure the sklener rebbe zt”l who loved every Jew would of wanted those bucherim to stay in yeshiva and follow instructions of their Rosh yeshiva.
    I remember when I was a bucher and was kicked out for 2 weeks because I went to a chasene out of town against the Rosh yeshiva instruction.
  23. This Yeshiva is one of Lakewoods elite Yeshivos, where bochrim know very well what the yeshiva policies are, same litvish or chadidish, they never ever shut the Bais Medrash, well deserved punishment, they are not worthy of being part of this great mokom Torah
  24. Until YWN knows why their Rabbonim didn’t allow their students to go, this should not be public information. Of course the Skulener Rebbe ZTVK’L was a Gadol B’Yisrael. Nevertheless the Yeshiva didn’t allow them to go. That’s none of our business why this Yeshiva didn’t allow them to go. If you don’t like the Yeshiva, don’t send your kids there! But this shouldn’t be public information. We’re doing more damage than helping.
    It’s ridiculous how every little thing is viral.
    If we make a mockery of of everything, you think kids will ever listen to their Rebbeim again??
  25. The Bochurim were 100%right to go to the Levaye.The one who did the suspension has no Yiras Shemayim,.He is like the Erev Ravs who learn Gemorah on Shabbos while smoking a cigar for mental exercise.
  26. These bochurim had all the rights, as in their mind and many others it was a clear situation of :
    מבטלין ת”ת לכבוד המת
    The hanhala has no rights to infringe on their halachik rights.
    I’m almost certain, that the very הנהלה does not even have the capacity to pasken even basic halacha שאלות!
  27. The facts that i verified with someone in the yeshivah is as follows :
    The yeshiva did NOT say that its forbidden to go, he just mentioned that there is no חיוב to go according to a שיטה in ראשונים thats all!
    In the AM after the boys were hedding to NY he said that he forbids them to go, so to all that are busy talking about listening, obeying yeshiva rules its not nogaya in this case.
    In my opinion he should take them back immediately… so it doesn’t further harm the name of this chushiva yeshiva.
  28. Asinine chinuch. Not one of the bachrim that got suspended will learn there lesson and if it would happen again they would most probably go again.

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Rabbi Gaby Lock said...

WHEN I READ THIS I AM NOT SURPRISED THAT THE MOSHIACH HAS NOT COME
WE DO NOT NEED THE HOLOCAUST AND THE GOYIM TO REMIND US WE ARE JEWS
WITH FUCKING RABBIS LIKE THAT WHO NEEDS HITLER ! ! !

4 April 2019 at 13:01

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