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Monday 26 December 2016

DO NOT FLY FRIDAY

Another Shabbos Fiasco With El Al As Plane Lands One Minute Before Candle Lighting

(Sunday, December 25th, 2016 08:00 PM)
1Once again frum travelers landing in Tel Aviv on Shabbos found themselves in a difficult place as El Al flight 320 from Paris to Tel Aviv landed on erev Shabbos at 4:18PM. Candle lighting in Bnei Brak was 4:19PM.
Some of the passengers on board spoke with Kol Berama Radio host Noam Zeigman on Sunday, 25 Kislev, explaining what took place. The report the flight left Paris two hours late due to inclement weather. Some of the frum passengers spoke with airline officials during the waiting period, concerned as they saw Shabbos nearing while they had yet to take off. They explain airline representatives told them that if the flight cannot land by 3:15PM, it will not leave Paris.
Hearing these words, they were comfortable with the situation and when the flight took off, they were confident they would have an hour from landing to get to their destination. However, this was not the case as reported above. Making things worse, the ‘Shabbos protocol’ was not implemented, permitting the religious Jews to move ahead of the lines to reach their destinations.
Kol Berama spoke with El Al and its version of events is somewhat different. The airline insists no one promised to land by 3:15PM, but passengers were promised to land before Shabbos and this is what occurred. The airline apologized for not implementing the ‘Shabbos protocol’ which they admit should have been implemented.
Musicians Ohad Moskowitz and Gershon Freishtat were among the passengers and they were among the lucky ones, having a place to go in Kfar Chabad. They reportedly took a cab for about five minutes and then walks for over 40 minutes until reaching Kfar Chabad, where they spent Shabbos.
(YWN – Israel Desk, Jerusalem)




  1. MarccoH says:
    While we all feel bad for the stranded passengers, two things should still be borne in mind:
    1. Flying on Erev Shabbos, especially such a short one, in addition to the flight being international, always has an inherent possibility of being delayed and arriving extremely close to Shabbos.
    2. Shabbos protocol is very nice, but are the rest of the passengers goyim, whom the frum ones would certainly delay, thus making their chilul Shabbos definite?
    If you are so observant, unless it’s a true sha’as hadchak, or a bona fide emergency, please remember the words of the poskim about NOT traveling on erev Shabbos even between two nearby towns, let alone flying from a different country.
  2. Gadolhadorah says:
    If these ehrlech yidden are so worried about arriving prior to shkiah, they will fly on Wednesday or Thursday. El Al makes a reasonable effort to accommodate those passengers who might be shomer Shabbos, but it is a highly regulated, profit making (at least in theory)commercial enterprise and not among those mosdos committed to strict compliance with alacha. Its getting tiring of hearing these fools whine about chilul Shabbos when they have no one else but themselves to blame
  3. GABY LOCK SAYS

  4.  THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO ADD TO THESE TWO COMMENTS

15 comments:

Chaim Feldman said...

Well said Gaby Lock ! That is the most intelligent comment I have ever heard from you

Rabbi Gaby Lock said...

EVERY THING I SAY IS INTELLIGENT
THE PROBLEM IS YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND ME
YOU ARE LIKE ALL PEOPLE WHEN THEY UNDERSTAND ME
I AM A CLEAVER PERSON
WHEN THEY DO NOT, THEN I AM MAD.
SO WE HAVE COME TO A CONCLUSION THAT I SHOULD BE A CLEAVER PERSON IN YOUR EYES I MUST SAY THINGS THAT YOUR LITTLE BRAIN UNDERSTANDS

David said...

Chaim ,I love you comment.

Malka Batsheva said...

People just think it is ok to come onto your blog and insult you without offering any reasoned opinions on anything.

korach said...

Malka batsheva you must be a double of rabbi lock.
Who insulted rabbi lock?
You purpose is to make fights,you might be able to hide it from human beings and pretend that you do it leshem shomayim but DEVORIM HANIMSORIM LELÈV NÈÈMAR VEYORÈSO MÈÈLOĶÈICHO

Malka Batsheva said...

Mmm, look at the first comments and other comments on previous posts. How can I cause a fight on a blog and hide it from human beings? This is a rhetorical question, please don't answer.

Rabbi Gaby Lock said...

MALKA BATSHEVA THIS PERSON WHO CALLS HIM OR HER SELF KORACH IS NOTHING BUT THE REAL THING
ALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT IT IS NOT PROPER TO TAKE A FLIGHT TO ISRAEL ON EREV SHABBOS
PLEASE KORACH DO YOU AGREE OR NOT ?
THE REST OF YOUR FUCKING COMMENTS ARE UN IMPORTANT

Chaim Feldman said...

You state that everything you say is intelligent, yet not for the first time you indulge in crude and unnecessary swearing. How do you justify this behaviour, noch from a so-called G-d fearing man?

Rabbi Gaby Lock said...

I LEARNT THIS FROM A VERY GOOD PLACE IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO NOTICE WHAT YOU SAY YOU HAVE TO DO OUTRAGEOUS THINGS
THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST INTELLIGENT THINGS I HAVE EVER SAID
NO SWEARING OR BAD LANGUAGE IS UNNECESSARY
IN ADVERTISING THEY DO THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS THINGS TO GET YOU TO LOOK AT THE ADVERT
I HAVE NO TIME TO EXPLAIN YOU HUMAN BEHAVIOUR
BUT THERE ARE PLENTY OF BOOKS ON THIS SUBJECT

David said...

Chaim Feldman you are so right ,but there is no point to fight with someone who believes that everything he does is for heaven sake

Rabbi Gaby Lock said...

DAVID
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
BUT I GIVE AN EXPLANATION ON EVERY THING I DO
IF I USE WORDS YOU DO NOT LIKE OR I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR RABBIS THAT LIKE MONEY I EXPLAIN MY SELF
BUT DO YOU EXPLAIN THE WAY YOU THINK OF ME ? ?

Chaim Feldman said...

As you claim to give an exp everything you do, perhaps you could explain why you continue to collect in Golders Green and Hendon, despite your often-expressed low opinion of that community

Chaim Feldman said...

Give an explanation for everything you do

Malka Batsheva said...

Well, some lovely kind people swear and some obnoxious people don't.

Rabbi Gaby Lock said...

IF YOU WILL IDENTIFY WHO YOU ARE AND THAT YOU GIVE ME MONEY I WILL GLADLY GIVE YOU AN EXPLANATION I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE
BUT TO A PERSON WHO CALLS HIMSELF CHAIM FELDMAN AND OTHERS
WHO HOUND ME FOR NO APPARENT REASON
ALL I CAN SAY IS FUCK OFF ! ! !
WHO HOUNDS ME F