The mistakes you refer to by Rebbes in your rant were accidental. Not wilful choices to act wrongly as Reb Chaim is accused of doing even after being warned to stop.
Also, the Torah allows for Tshuvah - but only when the Averos are acknowledged.
With the greatest of respect, I think that your comments demonstrate a total lack of understanding of Halpern's behaviour. According to many respected rabbonim who have heard testimony at first hand he abused on a persistent basis over many years women who had come to him to seek advice and support. His behaviour is totally unacceptable on any level. He compounded his wrongdoing by flagrant breaches of Halochoh. To compare what he did to e.g. Moshe's striking the rock is at best disingenuous. Moshe hit the rock once - Halpern is accused of abusing countless victims and continuing to do so even after being told not to.
Nowhere did I hear any concern in your comments for the terrible effect his behaviour had, and continues to have, on his victims. Instead it seems to me a rather sad attempt to sweep the whole unsavoury matter under the carpet, when in fact you should be using your energies to support the victims. The more people try to cover up these heinous crimes, the worse the outcome will be for everyone.
I don't think you understand the nature of the allegations. The examples you have supplied were of misunderstanding (you and your brother), forgetfulness (wrong davenning on Tzom Gedaliah), and perhaps more seriously, ignorance (Satmar Rebbe and the moon landings). We can forgive forgetfulness, misunderstanding, and ignorance.
I will forgive you for this YouTube video, Rabbi Lock, because what you have done is exhibit either misunderstanding or ignorance.
HaRav Chaim Halpern Shlita is alleged to have groped intimate parts of ladies' anatomy on multiple ocassions. In addition, he is alleged to have indulged in sex chat and texting with these ladies. He made a commitment to stop doing this - and then allegedly carried on doing it. If these allegations are true, it was not a mistake. There was no ignorance, no misunderstanding, and no forgetfulness. If these allegations are true, he did it all to satisfy his callous sexual desires and he treated those women like the mud on his shoes.
If these allegations are true, we should live with such an individual as a Rav? We should listen to his mussar? We should go to his internet assifa? We should forgive him for the crimes he has never even admitted to?
So are these allegations true?
Is she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying?
Is she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying?
Or is he lying?
And you Gabi, are the towns fool. Go back to making silly documentaries full of chilul Hashem, like 2 Jews on a cruise.
IFYOUTICKLEUS: I TALKED A LOT WITH YOUR LATE MOTHER A.H. HER AIM IN LIFE WAS YOU SHOULD TURN OUT GOOD STAMFORD HILL BOYS CHASIDSHE YIDEN NOT STUPIED GOLDERS GREEN FOOLS WHO ARE A CHILUL HASHEM TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE
Gaby. I actually like your stuff and I enjoy seeing you on TV. Ithink your perspective, although excentric is refreshing. But please don't tell others they are creating a chillul hashem. Many people (not me as I've said) think you are a multiple -chillulhashemnick. Pots calling kettle black spring to mind.
MissGabi, if you think the above commenter is Tickle the blog writer, you might as well think that you are the King of Florescent Tubes in England and the Commonwealth. Oh wait you probably do already. The rumour's against Halpern are in your eyes possibly false. No one really knows who Tickle is and there has been some evidence that it is someone other than who you think it is. You are out of date.
I AM OPEN AND DO NOT HAVE TO HIDE MY NAME. I AM FREE AND CAN WRITE MY OPINION. YOU LOT ARE IN PRISON AND LIFE DEPENDS OF WHAT THE OTHER PERSON THINKS OF YOU. WHEN I GO TO THE CEMETRY I WALK AROUND. I SEE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO MAKE A GOOD IMPRESSION ON OTHERS AND YOUNGSTERS OF TODAY DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. LEARN TORAH AND LEARN TO BE FREE
gaby lock - you cock, watching ur video ont he gurer rebbe - who the fuck is the gurer rebbe that ur comparing him to mistakes and stories!?! nonsense u talk is un believable
AnonyMOUSE you are the shmock around here. how dare you show disrespect to a Rebbe and also to the Gaon haRav my Rebbe the esteemed Rabbi Gaby Lock. Your course language shows what a sham you are. At least HaGaon Rav Lock is not afraid to reveal himself and his opinions, which are all das toirah. Rabbi Lock you are my Rebbe.
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The mistakes you refer to by Rebbes in your rant were accidental. Not wilful choices to act wrongly as Reb Chaim is accused of doing even after being warned to stop.
Also, the Torah allows for Tshuvah - but only when the Averos are acknowledged.
No Rebbe ever made a mistake. They are infallible and have da'as teirah..!
there is hard core (mind the pun) evidence that a ordinary rov would be fired....
With the greatest of respect, I think that your comments demonstrate a total lack of understanding of Halpern's behaviour. According to many respected rabbonim who have heard testimony at first hand he abused on a persistent basis over many years women who had come to him to seek advice and support. His behaviour is totally unacceptable on any level. He compounded his wrongdoing by flagrant breaches of Halochoh. To compare what he did to e.g. Moshe's striking the rock is at best disingenuous. Moshe hit the rock once - Halpern is accused of abusing countless victims and continuing to do so even after being told not to.
Nowhere did I hear any concern in your comments for the terrible effect his behaviour had, and continues to have, on his victims. Instead it seems to me a rather sad attempt to sweep the whole unsavoury matter under the carpet, when in fact you should be using your energies to support the victims. The more people try to cover up these heinous crimes, the worse the outcome will be for everyone.
Gabi, you are a KOOKOOO. Lets see how forgiving you are when your daughter is abused by a Rabbi...
You are a sick pervert if you 'understand' this Rabbi.
A 'mistake' is when you put salt into your cuppa instead of sugar. What RCH did was an aveiroh, and he should bear the consequences.
I don't think you understand the nature of the allegations. The examples you have supplied were of misunderstanding (you and your brother), forgetfulness (wrong davenning on Tzom Gedaliah), and perhaps more seriously, ignorance (Satmar Rebbe and the moon landings). We can forgive forgetfulness, misunderstanding, and ignorance.
I will forgive you for this YouTube video, Rabbi Lock, because what you have done is exhibit either misunderstanding or ignorance.
HaRav Chaim Halpern Shlita is alleged to have groped intimate parts of ladies' anatomy on multiple ocassions. In addition, he is alleged to have indulged in sex chat and texting with these ladies. He made a commitment to stop doing this - and then allegedly carried on doing it. If these allegations are true, it was not a mistake. There was no ignorance, no misunderstanding, and no forgetfulness. If these allegations are true, he did it all to satisfy his callous sexual desires and he treated those women like the mud on his shoes.
If these allegations are true, we should live with such an individual as a Rav? We should listen to his mussar? We should go to his internet assifa? We should forgive him for the crimes he has never even admitted to?
So are these allegations true?
Is she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying?
Or is he lying?
VoR has nailed it.
Is she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying and she lying?
Or is he lying?
And you Gabi, are the towns fool. Go back to making silly documentaries full of chilul Hashem, like 2 Jews on a cruise.
IFYOUTICKLEUS:
I TALKED A LOT WITH YOUR LATE MOTHER A.H.
HER AIM IN LIFE WAS YOU SHOULD TURN OUT GOOD STAMFORD HILL BOYS
CHASIDSHE YIDEN
NOT STUPIED GOLDERS GREEN FOOLS WHO ARE A CHILUL HASHEM TO THE JEWISH
PEOPLE
Gaby. I actually like your stuff and I enjoy seeing you on TV. Ithink your perspective, although excentric is refreshing. But please don't tell others they are creating a chillul hashem. Many people (not me as I've said) think you are a multiple -chillulhashemnick. Pots calling kettle black spring to mind.
... and by the way, have you got rid of those fluorescent tubes?
Lock, you a raving lunatic and your support of Halpern shows most Yieden that he is guilty.
your parents biggest mistake was having you!!!
MissGabi, if you think the above commenter is Tickle the blog writer, you might as well think that you are the King of Florescent Tubes in England and the Commonwealth. Oh wait you probably do already. The rumour's against Halpern are in your eyes possibly false. No one really knows who Tickle is and there has been some evidence that it is someone other than who you think it is. You are out of date.
I AM OPEN AND DO NOT HAVE TO HIDE MY NAME.
I AM FREE AND CAN WRITE MY OPINION.
YOU LOT ARE IN PRISON
AND LIFE DEPENDS OF WHAT THE OTHER PERSON THINKS OF YOU.
WHEN I GO TO THE CEMETRY I WALK AROUND.
I SEE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO MAKE A
GOOD IMPRESSION ON OTHERS
AND YOUNGSTERS OF TODAY DO NOT EVEN KNOW
WHO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
LEARN TORAH AND LEARN TO BE FREE
Oddly, it is far more likely that ifyouticklefuss is actually ifyoutickleus.
Good point, but you are still one of the biggest mechalelei Hashem in this generation. Why can't you learn to just keep shtum.
I write sensibly and logically, whilst you simply spew sewage.
Please stop writing, videoing and posting all this rubbish.
Oh, and don't think you know who I am.
gaby lock - you cock, watching ur video ont he gurer rebbe - who the fuck is the gurer rebbe that ur comparing him to mistakes and stories!?! nonsense u talk is un believable
AnonyMOUSE you are the shmock around here. how dare you show disrespect to a Rebbe and also to the Gaon haRav my Rebbe the esteemed Rabbi Gaby Lock.
Your course language shows what a sham you are. At least HaGaon Rav Lock is not afraid to reveal himself and his opinions, which are all das toirah.
Rabbi Lock you are my Rebbe.
your a good guy Mr lock keep it up
all loshon hora...so long there is no 2 witnesse coming forward to the beth din ..... nobody has the right to judge...
IF IF IF IF....IF SO YOU HAVE NOT PROOF.... SO? YOU ARE MEKABEL LOSHON HORA
Because the witnesses - VICTIMS - are too ashamed and afraid that their families will be ostracised.
fuckwit.
Gaby Lock, you just need Jesus
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